WaveMatrix3 | Windows 11 Ready | Webinar

[00:00:07] Speaker: Hello. Uh good morning, good afternoon uh to everybody that's joined us for our Windows 11 ready webinar. Um we're just going to get started now.

[00:00:22] Speaker: So today you have three main hosts. Uh two of us will be presenting. Uh you'll have myself, my name is Mark Overson. I'm the product marketing manager here at Instron. Alongside me, I have Francis Cosby uh who is our senior support engineer in dynamic systems and additionally we have Dr. Pete Bailey, our principal material scientist. Just some notices uh before we start for today. Uh we will be recording uh this webinar. Um there is a question and answer session planned for the end of the webinar i.e. after we've done uh everything. So please as you go type your questions into the chat box um and we'll basically address them at the end of the show. Um finally uh the slides for today uh we don't plan to share them um however if there is anything that you wish to uh obtain or any information you found useful uh please by all means do contact us uh and we will endeavor to get you the information you require. The agenda for today is quite simple. Um we're going to go through a little bit about Windows 10 obsolescence and what it means. Um then talk about Windows 11 ready I what you need to do in order to get your your system ready for Windows 11. And then finally we will be doing a product demonstration uh live product demonstration of the software uh wave matrix 3.

[00:01:50] Speaker: So Windows 10 obsolescence what does it mean? So periodically uh Microsoft end support for their different PC operating systems. Uh most recently uh Windows 10 is coming to an end and that's basically being uh halted this October. Um they typically do do this every 5 years. It does depend but normally um Windows do this regularly and it's something Microsoft do and as a user of Microsoft uh products we have to react to that as a company. Um the impact is that customers i.e. ourselves were unable to receive technical assistance, software updates or security fixes on that platform. So we're unable to do an awful lot of things we typically do with with updates. This again affects our in our ability to support propriety software such as Wavemetrics 3, Blue Hill Universal uh and uh Blue Hill Fracture for example that are not necessarily designed to work on Windows 11. However, those three are designed to work on Windows 11, and we'll get to that in a moment. There are also different versions of Windows 10 um you need to be aware of. So, the version that um we have on many of our systems, some systems are supplied with Windows 10 Enterprise LTSC. Um this is typically on our static machines and not necessarily on our dynamic systems. Um however, uh these versions uh will be supported beyond October 2025. uh and the dates do differ. So, Windows 10 LTSB uh is uh 2016 uh is basically supported until October next year, 2026. Uh Windows 10 LTSC uh from 2019 is supported until January 2029. So, there's plenty time to um assess your computer and plan for those upgrades at a later date. However, what we're talking about today is Windows 10 Professional. Um this is the version of Windows that will be unsupported from October and it is our recommendation that our customers uh using our systems upgrade to Windows 11 compatible uh software. Just wanted to say very quickly at this point in time before moving on to the Windows 11 piece um is that it's very important to understand just because your system has Windows 10 and Windows 10 is no longer being supported by Microsoft, it doesn't mean that your computer or your test system will stop working. It will continue to work beyond this support end date. Just to be very very clear on that. However, of course, with Microsoft not providing any uh security updates, bug fixes or technical support, it is very hard for us to basically update uh versions of the system that are using Windows 10 or or earlier versions like Windows 7 or Windows XP. And ultimately, third party software that we make um will gradually lose compatibility with the outdate uh with the this outdated Windows versions. Um, for example, the latest version of our software wave matrix 3 won't be updated to support Windows 10 features. It will only be updated to support Windows 11. Okay. So, without further ado, I will hand over to Francis Cosby.

[00:05:05] Speaker: Thank you very much, Mark. Uh, so hello everyone. Thank you. I'm Francis and I'm a senior support and applications engineer here at Instron in our dynamic divisions the business. So talking about Windows 11 ready, what does that mean? So um we have three kind of main components of a system. Um one is the software itself. So that would be things like console, wave matrix and blue hill. Then we have the the computer that you're operating with um with its relevant operating system. And then you have the hardware uh the frame itself and the controller that's going with that that machine. So those are the three kind of components and each of those components have their own kind of life cycle. Um what do I mean by life cycle? So at Instron we um support our systems within four different phases of life. So phase one is what we call full inproduction support. Um so a for example wave matrix 3 is our current software. So that's in full production support. So in terms of you know technical support or application support calibration repair etc. Phase one means we're fully supporting that product. Phase two is not production but still full supported. So for example, wave matrix 2, we no longer produce it, but we still will again fully support it with all of those features. Now phase three and four is where things start to come out of support. Um so phase three would be reasonable effort. Um and you know depending on the exact age of the um the machine or the software etc that could be very limited. And then phase four is no longer supported where we would be very limited in our ability to actually support that that product. Um and so now the question is what is what cycle are we in for our various pieces of software. So on our screen you can see here for software um these are the catalog numbers on the left and the uh the descriptions on on on the right here and the versions of those pieces of software. So, for example, Wave Matrix 3 here, we started shipping in 2023 and we had the version number there. We'll talk a little bit more about version numbers later and where to find that information on your PC so you can double check whether or not your system is actually Windows 11 already. So basically what what we're seeing with this slide is if you have a a PC that's a u been shipped you know post 2024 and you have these pieces of software that PC might be Windows 10 but you might be able to upgrade that PC to Windows 11 um through the Microsoft website and what we're saying here is all of these pieces of software will be completely compatible with that new version of Windows 11 um or you could equally get a new PC which is Windows 11 and these pieces of software again will function with Windows 11. And then the other piece is the last line is around our controller. So in our dynamic business systems uh we have the 8800 MT digital controller uh which has been produced since 2014. So this is you know been going on over 10 years now. We've been producing this controller and this is again with our latest version of our console software fully comp compatible with a Windows 11 Pro.

[00:08:31] Speaker: Okay. In terms of software compatibility, just to give you a little bit more clarity on the older versions of let's say for example wave matrix uh which is our kind of more common dynamic piece of software. So wave matrix one like we said is um now phase four. So it's you know and same goes for Blue Hills one two and three um wave matrix 2 as well as some of our older fracture software J1C K1C and DDN those are not Windows 11 supported anymore. Okay so if you have those pieces of software and you're changing to Windows 11 they they might work but they're not supported. So if there's any bugs or issues we might be limited in our ability to support them versus Wave Matrix 3. Here you can see phase one full production support. Uh same goes for Blue Hill Universal, our static testing software and Blue Hill Fracture, our latest a version of fracture testing software. Okay.

[00:09:27] Speaker: Now, how do you check and see if your software is actually um in version uh to be Windows 11 compatible? Uh this is a a quick slide just to show you where you would look um in the software. So for our console software, there's a little button on the bottom left hand side of the screen. You click on that and then you see a little I symbol. You click on that and it will it give you a little popup with the version of console. And then for blue hill fracture with matrix 3 with matrix 2 etc. you would open up that piece of software and you click the corresponding a symbol to open up again the administration um uh page of those of that software and that will again show you the software version. uh on older pieces of software uh this might be a little bit uh harder to a find this information. So the latest piece of software we have made more easier to kind of uh discover this information without too much hassle. So um just for your guidance really um but obviously if you're not sure just contact instrument and we can try and help you discover your version of software. Okay. Um then once you've checked your software obviously here comes the the PC check. So um for anyone who isn't sure how to find the version of Windows that they have running on their PC, we have here on the screen a couple of different ways of discovering that yourselves. Um so there's different methods you can use to confirm which version of a Windows you have. Um, and also a you can also use online tools to confirm whether or not your PC can be upgraded to Windows 11 without changing it or if you need to change the PC itself. Um, you can do that online.

[00:11:18] Speaker: Okay. And then the next thing you need to check is your piece of hardware. So the 8800 MT controller like I said earlier it's been released since 2014 and it's designed to work on our dynamic testing machines for cyclic testing and the you know this has been you know at the heart of our electropulse and servo hydraulic machines and it is completely compatible with Windows 11. So, if you haven't got our latest 8800 MT controller um and you want to run Windows 11, um you can certainly reach out to us and speak to us about a changing your controller uh platform to the latest version so that you can now switch to Windows 11 fully. Um if you are unsure about what version of a the controller you have, you can look on either the machine itself or on the back of the controller for the serial number. Uh and again just reach out to us and we can help you confirm what model and type you have. And if you want to know a little bit more about the actual platform itself, there is information on our website about the controller and its added benefits as a later b uh version of electronics that you might not currently have.

[00:12:27] Speaker: Okay. So we're going to move on to the product demonstration now. So I will be showing you a machine and sharing the test PC stream. But before we do, just a couple of things to kind of cover. Um, so in terms of the software structure, um, what I'm going to show you again is our dynamic machine. And our dynamic machine uses a piece of software called console. And this is kind of sits the foundation of all of our other pieces of software, always running in the background. And it gives you live machine status information and helps you with the setup and configuration of the system. On top of that, then we have our test software. For example, Wave Matrix 3, which I'll be showing you today. But we have other pieces of software such as Blue Hill Fracture and even Blue Hill Universal, which is developed for our static testing machines, but can also be used on our dynamic machines as well. Uh so they all kind of sit on top of console. So that's a just piece different pieces of software uh and how they all kind of fit together. um in terms of what we're going to show you today and kind of highlight throughout the product a uh kind of a demonstration is the kind of these new features. So of course the first one would be around the compatibility with the Windows 11 making sure that your systems are future proofed and you don't have your IT department um complaining and then the actual kind of beneficial features of Wave Matrix 3 to kind of a be the uh benefits of actually changing to the latest version of software if you haven't already got it. uh we're going to show you are a test review software uh so you can run a test and you can look at that data without post-processing it in something like Excel. We'll look at specimen and test input. So now on the test screen we can enter data and that data can then be used in various ways to uh run tests. And then of we'll also show you how we have introduced some security features uh where you can have different levels of security for different users um so you don't have people changing your methods unwantedly for example. Okay. And a so this is just a little quick highlight um of the various features. So we have on our wave matrix 2 we have our test uh test buttons we have our test specimen and test inputs and method generation. Uh we have our quick test method generation which I can highlight to you. We have the new security features in the admin screen. We have the new test review button and most importantly a lot of people tend to forget we also have tutorials as well in our software which can help you get up and running with various applications. Um I'll show you guys a little bit more on that. Oh, and finally, one last point is if you're ever unsure about a certain feature within our software. Um, we have a context sensitive help system. So, wherever you are in the software, you press F1, it will pop up the help for that specific area.

[00:15:16] Speaker: Okay. So, before we move over to the demonstration proper, uh just remember uh I'll be showing my webcam uh for showing you the machine and also a sharing my screen uh so you can actually see the software firsthand. Uh, so there won't be any slides at this point. It's all going to be purely demonstration. And again, just as a reminder to uh type any questions you have into the Q&A box. It doesn't have to be about what I'm demonstrating, but if you have any kind of general questions about Wave Matrix or software, uh, feel free to enter those into the chat. Uh, so without further ado, I think I'm going to move over now to a sharing my screen and also a showing the video. So just give me one moment. There we go. Okay. So, and then I'm going to share my screen as well with a test PC.

[00:16:06] Speaker: Okay. So, yeah, you should all see that now. All right. So, this is our E20,000 machine I'm going showing you all today. So, just a quick highlight on the parts for the hardware. So it's a 20 konton dynamic testing machine. We have a set of 20 kon newton pneumatic grips here. Um and a our software you can see there on the screen as well. A so what I'm going to going to show you is just a simple a tensile cyclic test. I have a specimen in here currently but I'm going to take it out and we'll start showing you from the beginning a a typical kind of test and then we'll show you how we can improve it with our latest features. Okay. Wait for that to open. There we go. All right. So, moving over to the focus on the software first. So, ignoring the camera for a moment. Uh what you see here in the software is our console software. Uh which is the live displays here on the top and the sidebar on the left. And this again like I said earlier is our setup software. So, I'm not going to go through the setup for the demonstration today. Um this demonstration isn't about console. It's really a focus on wave matrix 3. Um, so first thing I'm going to do is I'm going to open wave matrix 3. And for anyone who is using our wave matrix 1 or two software, you will see the first thing that comes up now is a security box which you may not have. And you can see here I have a various users. Um, I have Ben who is an operator. I have Bill who is a lab manager. And then I have a Bob who is an administrator. So I'm going to sign in as Ben. So Ben has his own passcode and once I've typed the passcode then it launches Wave Matrix 3. Okay. And you'll see here that Ben as an operator is only capable of running tests and opening the test review software. Um and he can look at tutorials. So Ben the operator is is asked to run a test. So he's going to go and he's going to run the test that he's been asked to run. Um so he's going to put a specimen in. He would have obviously tuned it, set up the limits, etc. So, he's going to put he's going to install the specimen.

[00:18:35] Speaker: Okay, there we go. Nice and straight.

[00:18:45] Speaker: Okay. And then once the specimen is installed, he's going to basically hit start on this test and it will run whatever test was set up for him. Okay. So, it's just going to ramp to mean and then it's going to start cycling. And this test is a a simple force control test. All all the um the method is doing is it's just asking to go between 2,00 and 200 newtons cycling at a two hertz. Now a Ben the operator is unable to actually change anything about the the method. So he can't change the frequency, he can't change anything else. He's locked into this particular test. So he just runs this until it fails and then he moves on to the next specimen. Uh so I'm going to stop the test now and I'm going to close wave matrix and I'm going to reopen it this time as a the lab manager Bill. So again, Bill has his own login and password. And when he opens up, you'll see there's now a couple more options. Uh now we have the method creation and we also have the quick test creation. So in this case, um I can go back and I can open up that project again. So there's the same one that the operator was looking at, but now on the top here, you can see there's a now a tab called method. I can now look at the method created uh originally and I can now go in and I can change it. Uh so for example I could change the frequency from 2 to three hertz. Um but the most common thing that people want to change is things like the specimen dimensions. So if you want to run a test for example in stress control you need to know the dimensions of your sample. So you would take a sample, you would take a you know the calipers and you would measure the width and the thickness and you would then kind of calculate the stress based on that information and the force being applied. Now if I wanted to change that to a stress control test. Um now I can show you some of the cool new features. Uh one of them being specimen inputs. So on the left hand side here in wave matrix um I have different specimen types and this is a flat specimen and um it's already I've already kind of filled in the details earlier. So I know it's got a thickness of 3.99 and a width of 10.3. And the good thing is with these specimen inputs it's once they're created here if I go back to the test screen you can see here they appear here in this box called test inputs. And these fields are free to be filled in and changed by anyone who doesn't have access to the method. So now um I can do things like back in my test control I can change the commands to be now in stress and we're going to see 27 MPa. I just know these numbers because I I I did this earlier and I can have a stress control cyclic testing 23 MPa and I'll keep the frequency at three hertz. Um so now when I run this test

[00:21:55] Speaker: I'm actually going to be doing it in in in the stress control. So I can actually readjust my my uh my layout here. So I can use a graph. So instead of looking at displacement, I could look at stress. Okay. And you can see here we're asking for 50 MPa down to four. And it's holding steady. So by just doing a couple of a tweaks there, we've now have a stress control test. And you'll see once the test is started, these boxes are grayed out. So we can't change the dimensions after the fact. Um so but if I stop the test and let's assume now we are changing to a different sample with slightly different dimensions. Um you know the operator will have access to these fields be able to put that information in and again run a more accurate stress controlled test. Um so I can I can demonstrate that again. If I go and close wave matrix 3, open it back up as the operator.

[00:23:03] Speaker: Okay. Go to test continue project.

[00:23:08] Speaker: Okay. And again you can see here I don't have access to method a um modification but I do have access to the specimen inputs. Um, and I can again change it to, you know, four and 11 for example for the next sample. And I can hit start on that and away I go. So that's a a little bit on specimen input and security. Um, but let's say something happens during the test which has a caused an unexpected failure. Okay. Now, in previous times with wave matrix one and two, what you would have to do is you'd have to click on the results folder tab button and then you'd have to, you know, navigate to the correct method and you'd have to take this data and if you haven't got um some kind of software on the test PC to uh actually process this data, you'd have to save it onto a memory stick or onto the cloud and then go to your laptop uh in your office and post-process it there. What we do now have in wave matrix 3 is another feature called review test. So I can click on review test and you can see here it's showing me the data that was captured during that particular test. Um and you can do various kinds of a things to analyze it. So you can look at specific cycles. For example, I can look at cycle 10 or cycle 20. Um you can change the axes of these. So for example, I can change this to uh let's say an XY graph uh with say I don't know stress versus displacement and you can get your hysteresus for example. So you can change and mess with the data a lot more quicker and easier than you would with the previous method of you know uh post-processing the files yourself. Now these uh graphs are the only four graphs you're able to generate. It doesn't save any of the uh other information you would have had in your in your test screen. So, for example, uh all of this data here in the pick and trend box um you wouldn't have. But what you do have for the specimen inputs, if we go back to a the results folder is we have a log now of the of that specimen input information. So now any information that we have assessed inputs will be saved as a separate log file. Okay. Um and then quickly back to this application. So this is a separate application this this review test software. So you can have multiple instances of it open and you again like I said you can review multiple previous tests. So you can look at test seven for example that I ran earlier um or you know go back to test 16 and yeah it's a giving you a much more quicker and easier way to review your data without a lot of laborious post-processing. Um the one thing we don't have here is any kind of report generation. So if you wanted to a kind of save these graphs, what you would do is you would right click and you would copy the graph and you would paste it into whatever a report a kind of um a software you're using, you know, Microsoft Word for example. Um and then that way you can you know have some nice clean graphs ready to go much much quicker. All right. So, that's a a little bit on the review test software. Um, and and we've talked about a uh Windows 11 compatibility, talked about specimen inputs, and we've talked about a um tutorials as well. Like I mentioned bit before, these are all really useful. So, don't forget to always refer to these. Um, these were actually introduced in wave matrix 2. So, if you already have wave matrix 2, you should have these. Um but that is a pretty much everything regarding with Matrix 3 um new newest features um which be a real benefit to to any lab um and a real kind of a an incentive to a to upgrade your software not just for the Windows 11 compatibility. Okay, so thanks everyone. U I will stop sharing and I will move us back to uh to Mark.

[00:27:30] Speaker: Thank you, Francis. Um, much appreciated for that quick demonstration. Uh, we are now moving over to the Q&A section. So, now's a great time for everyone to put their questions in. We'll try to answer as many as we can. We've got about 5 10 minutes. Um, right. So, um, I'm just going to just bear with me quickly look through the first ones. Um, okay. Uh, I'll read it out and then we'll pick it up as we go. So, um, can I use Windows 11 on Wave Matrix 2? Um, let me take this one. It's a nice easy one to start with to be honest with you. Um, yes. Um, Wave Matrix 2 can be used with in conjunction with Windows 11. Um however going back to the earlier slides uh in the presentation um it's not supported or Windows 10 for example isn't supported but also the software because we we've moved on to WEX free it is supported but we will not be updating it to benefit from any um bug fixes and patches um security protocols for example um that are delivered by Microsoft um on Windows 11. So although it is compatible it won't benefit from those security features either. the main reason why you should upgrade to uh Windows 11 ready software. Okay, second question. Let me just read that here. Um oh, I'll take this one as well. Uh can Wave Matrix 3 run on Windows 10? Um yes, it can do. Um it is compatible with Windows 10 operating system PCs, but again we don't recommend um this. We do recommend to upgrade to for Windows 11 for all the aforementioned uh reasons uh on on the previous one. Okay. Um okay, quick question here. Um can someone come and check uh my system? Yes is the answer to that question. Um we do have uh an opportunity to do what we call a free lab health check. Um our service engineers can come visit. So, if you do wish for us to come and check out your system, it may be quite old. You might not be able to find the information on online um or you might just be new and not know what the system is. Ultimately, yeah, we we do offer that um that opportunity for us to come and check. Uh we'll send an engineer to site free of charge. Um and we just ask that you contact us directly. Um you can go on to our website uh type in the search box uh lab health check and that will take you to the lab health check page um and there you'll find a very quick link to the contact contact us page um you fill in your details and then that gets basically filtered through to the relevant person uh in the planet on the planet wherever they might be whether you're in America whether you're in China Japan Korea Germany France UK it gets filtered to the right people uh and we'll get in contact with you. Okay, hand over to Pete. Hi Mark. Um, and hi hi folks online. Um, I got a question here about someone saying what I'm sorry I'll put my video on if you want and then you can see me. Um, uh, so what can you what else can you do with um the test inputs, the specimen inputs? Um and as you would have seen in Francis's demo, uh there can be dimensional inputs and there can be uh free form um specimen inputs which can be text or numbers. Um really the purpose of those is about um uh it's about capturing data um and capturing information about your test piece or your test setup that all gets bound in with your test record. So it's partly about traceability and you so you can use that for all sorts of other information about your specimen just recording. Um in a very advanced use we can do user defined calculations. Um uh obviously this is perhaps an more in-depth discussion about wave matrix features. We have built-in calculations. We can also use user defined calculations and those have the ability to pick up on in on things that you've in entered as specimen inputs. Um so you can do uh all sorts of interesting things which are calculated live during the test and we can pick up on um on user inputs to do those. So uh uh good question uh very much advanced use which is why I thought I'd pick up on that. But it's a nice capability that adds into Wavemetrics 3.

[00:18:45] Speaker: Thank you, Pete.

[00:18:50] Speaker: Um, so I've got one more question here. Uh, that's come in. Um, I I'm using uh Blue Hill Universal, uh, okay on a dynamic machine. Um, however, I'm not sure which version is correct. Uh okay. Um actually, uh yeah, I can answer that one actually as as myself. So um obviously we've got stat static testing machines, universal testing machines, and we've got dynamic testing machines. We're specifically talking about dynamic here. However, um on a static machine, if you have Blue Hill Universal version 4.28 or newer, it is compatible with Windows 11, so you don't need to do anything there. Um, if you are in a dynamic machine, uh, you would need version 4.34 or newer. Okay. Now, I think to be clear, um, if you're on a dynamic machine with 4.28 or newer, it's probably going to work. We just haven't tested it. However, um contact us directly um and we should be able to advise accordingly as to what needs to be done in order to upgrade uh or update that that software to get it working in Windows 11 compatible. Okay, over to Pete. Um another question online um uh someone says do you already sorry do you have already prepared finished methods like uh incremental step test? Um now one two two aspects to this for wave matrix uh we do not do that. Um so there are uh we we have looked at that um there are some example methods um which are really about tutorials um those are those are prepared and available there um specific standards focused tests at this point in wave matrix 3 there aren't any of those uh because they it's quite difficult to do because there are so many setups we are looking at it for a few um very specific things as future future options but not at the moment. In Bluehill Universal for um monotonic and and static tests, uh there are definitely uh prepared methods aligned for example with ISO and ASM tensile tests and compression tests that sort of thing. Um and those are far more formulaic. The other thing I would say is next week we'll be talking about blue hill un blue hill fracture uh which fracture mechanics tests are very very specific uh and in that software there are absolutely uh method specific tests. So I hope that answers you. I'll also type um type an answer in so you can see it. Um that's that question.

[00:32:30] Speaker: Okay. Um, just checking. I think that brings us to the end of the Q&A session. Um, we don't have any more questions at all. No, none from Francis. Any other final remarks from anybody before I wrap up the the presentation? So, okay. Thank you for for all that have joined us. U, so just to summarize um the presentation today before we close off. So obviously Windows 10 obsolescence that is occurring on Windows 10 professional uh which mainly affects dynamic systems uh machines. So um again we obviously recommend that you upgrade to uh Windows 11 ready to be Windows 11 ready for various different reasons uh mainly around obviously the security bug fixes and the fact that um software that has been designed for Windows 10 i.e. like wave matrix 3 uh sorry wave matrix 2. It's not something that we will look to continue to update even though it does operate and it is supported but it is in theory a phase 2 piece of software. So we do recommend to upgrade to wave maker free which is Windows 11 ready. Again there are three steps for for for checking whether your system is Windows 11 ready. check the uh proprietary software you have, whether it's Wave Matrix, Blue Hill Universal, or Blue Hill Fracture, for example, to make sure you have the latest versions. Um, again, on our website, uh, you have the ability to look at our software and check the out of production page to see which um, version your software is designed for and which versions of of Windows it is compatible with. And it does vary across the different pieces of software. Um, some are backwards compatible, some are aren't forwards compatible. So, we we do highly recommend you check that. Um, as well, um, secondarily to that, obviously, check your PC, uh, your computer and and the type of Windows. If you're operating on Windows 10, of course, it's not Windows 11 ready, so we do recommend looking at, uh, how you upgrade to Windows 11. Um, and again, within that, you need to check which PC you have. Uh again, uh we have a blog post and we have a very um useful page um about being Windows 11 ready on our website that will give you all of the basic information. Um and then finally within that section, you uh should be checking your your hardware. So your frame um the version um of of console that it has operating also needs to be a newer version. Um you know, we provide that relatively uh easily. Um but check your frame and check your digital controller. um it typically needs to be what we call an 8800 MT controller um it's smaller spelt version and if you have an older classic type which is like a bigger white type uh version system um then you would likely need to to upgrade um and I guess the simple point of that is that if you don't know just get in contact with your local sales representative or you can contact us on our website and we'll be happily uh available to answer and then from a product upgrade point of view again just to sum up we do recommend that you upgrade to Windows 11 ready um software uh systems uh hardware and PC. However, to be very clear, just because uh Windows 10 is becoming obsolete, your existing system won't stop to function. It will continue to function. Okay, so that's important. Um again, as I mentioned, for any questions, please feel free to contact us on uh you know, our contact us page, which you can see is is written at the bottom there. um as you navigate to our website there's a very simple uh button in the top right hand corner that says contact us there. Okay. So anyway, thank you to all uh thank you to my colleagues for the presentation and thank you to all that were listening. Um yeah, hope you have a wonderful day and we will speak to you later.

[00:39:16] Speaker: Goodbye.